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Gays have won: Drinks are cheap

By Mike Greear

Opinions Editor

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Published: Tuesday, December 1, 2009

Updated: Saturday, December 12, 2009

A large group of my friends and I spent Friday night hanging out at Emerald City, one of Pensacola’s gay night clubs.

Fridays are guy’s night at EC, so for me it was a great way to have a night out on the town while still being broke as a joke. It was my first time there, and I was surprised at how much fun it was.

Once we got more drunk and loosened up, our whole group would cram into one of the big, goofy cages off to the side of the dance floor and danced like a horde of mentally handicapped rhesus monkeys.

Later in the night they had a gay striptease contest that our friend Andy managed to win by just a hair (and I will not tell you where that hair came from). It was a really great time.

The next day when I told people that we hung out at a gay bar, people acted kind of surprised at first, but it really didn’t seem like a big deal to anyone.

Before that night I had never attempted to hang out at a gay club before, mostly because I thought it would be crossing some sort of line, like if a group of Christians showed up at a mosque and started doing their own form of prayer off to the side while the Muslims worshipping in that mosque were trying to tend to their own lifestyle.

It would just be kind of inconsiderate, since there are hundreds more Christian churches out there for them to pray in then there are mosques. Fortunately, what I found out was that gay people don’t seem to really care at all if straight people come hang out at their club.

And honestly, it isn’t that uncommon for a lot of straight people that I’ve met to go up to EC and hang out with their friends to take advantage of the drink special.

I suppose society has just given up on homophobia. I mean, anyone that saw Adam Lambert closing out the American Music Awards Sunday night can attest to that.

Once something becomes pop culture like that it has been officially accepted into mainstream society, and there’s no more avoiding it. It happened with the black community when rock ‘n’ roll became huge, and it’s happening now with the gay community.

Young people ultimately make the rules in our culture, and young people are saying that homophobia is lame.

The only people who are still holding on to it are older people, who are uncool anyway by default, and religious jerks who want everyone to be just as repressed and unhappy as they are because they hate being left out of all the cool stuff.

Eventually the old people are going to do what they always do and just complain about how scary the younger generation is (our music, our slang, our technology, our president).

Meanwhile, the religious people are going to do what they always do and conveniently rewrite their rules to make more room for gays so that their organization doesn’t become outdated and abandoned (read: divorce, heliocentrism, evolution... give it a sec).

The bottom line is that homophobia is dead, the gays have won, and dudes drink for two bucks on Friday nights. Cheers.

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17 comments

Your name
Fri Jan 8 2010 22:40
Michael Forster -

I will say this, I understand how you disagree, and congratulations on your recent or pending graduation from PJC. I understand that you disagree with the article's content, but more importantly you make a blanket statement when questioning whether or not the author's content or how the author expresses himself is a depiction as UWF. To be honest, that is similar to saying that all people from any schools that you have attended could be arrogant because that is an attribute that you posses. I believe it would be best that you stick reading a news paper that is associated with you, an example would be a paper from a school that you attend or have attended; hence, this might save you some aggravation. It is an unfair assumption, you really need to think first before you post. I personally think you owe the UWF community an apology by stating such an outrageous post before posting on our newspaper again, take it or leave it, it is up to you.

- A UWF Alumni

meghan
Tue Dec 15 2009 11:09
I feel as though this was a great article. It underlined that fact that SOME people are ignorant, but society as a whole is becoming more accepting.
Your name
Mon Dec 14 2009 15:26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpmIBJ_MKas
Your name
Mon Dec 14 2009 15:23
After reading this article, I was reminded of a clip from Billy Madison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpmIBJ_MKas
Rebekah
Tue Dec 8 2009 13:07
I know you never openly *said* gay people were another species, but the tone of the article did somewhat imply it. It is a lot like when Bill O' Reilly visited Sylvie's in Harlem and spent a half hour on his radio show marveling that racism must be a thing of the past because "it was just like any other restaurant... no one was yelling 'M-F'er, I want some more iced tea!' " (really, he said that.)
I'm not gay, so I can't really say if that whole marveling-that-they-like-us tone was insulting or not. It just seemed in poor taste...

Well... to me, the Adam Lambert performance set back gay acceptance, not demonstrated it. Does prancing around, hip-thrusting, flipping off the camera,singing awfully, grabbing dancers and shoving them into your crotch REALLY represent "the gay community"? And the response afterward showed even more clearly that people are way more upset with gays acting like sluts onstage than when straights do it.

Also, as a sometime- Conservative/ Libertarian/ Progressive I realize I don't speak for the young people of America. I also understand societal change, but don't you think it's a little dangerous even to classify "young people" under a blanket statement? Especially since "our" President has done nothing except send 30,000 more young people off to die.

I don't think your points were "lost" on me, I just don't think an overall lighthearted story about how it's cool that gays and straights can drink and strip together really justifies all the implied points you don't seem to realize you made.

Anyway... not meaning to flame, but I'm really tired of opening to my school paper and seeing clumsily-written, purposely-insulting stuff that has every RIGHT to be printed, but really ought not be printed.

Mike's Fan
Tue Dec 8 2009 11:57
Mike, you rock! Love the article. Keep spitting them out!
The Real Mike Greear
Tue Dec 8 2009 01:37
Rebekah: I see your point, but I still have to stand my ground here. I never tried comparing gays to another species. I said that I was worried that a gay person would be offended about straight people coming to their bar to drink because it's their spot to go and be themselves. I was trying to use the analogy of the Muslims and the Christians to get this across. Then when I found out that it wasn't that big of a deal I thought it would be nice to write an article about how normal it is now for gays and straights to hang out because up until very recently this would not have been the case.

As far as the Adam Lambert thing goes, that was used to make the point that gay culture is being co-opted more openly now in pop culture, and is so accepted that we see it on a basic cable awards show. It wasn't meant to support the whole article, just that one point.

As for the comments about old people and religious people, in my experience those are the people that have the most problem accepting the gay community. And not all of them. I made sure to say "religious jerks," because I certainly DO NOT think that simply being religious makes you mean or homophobic. And I mean, I think it should go without saying that I don't hate old people. Does anybody actually hate old people? I mean, honestly. Does anyone really read that and think I hate my mom and dad or my grandparents? I was just making light of the fact that the older generation is always scared of the younger one. It happens. I didn't think it was some huge controversy.

I apologize if these points in the article were lost on you. I do mean for it to be a quick, mostly funny read and not something that requires this much involvement. I do appreciate you reading and commenting, though.

Michael Forster: Awesome. Go be miserable elsewhere.

P.S. - I suddenly understand now why everyone was posting under "Your Name." Stupid Capcha.

Rebekah
Tue Dec 8 2009 00:11
My problem with this article is not that you are against homophobia; I, even though I'm one of those "religious jerks," agree, it's "lame" and no one should be subjected to hatred or unequal treatment. But it seems almost sarcastic... like an article mocking someone with your viewpoint. Not trying to pointlessly hate, but I really don't get what you're going for in this article.

The Adam Lambert controversy proved homophobia ISN'T relevant?
ONLY "old people" are homophobic?
Barack Obama is "our" President (and, by implication, pro-gay rights, even though he has stalled on Don't Ask, Don't Tell...)?

There's just a whole lotta irony going on here. It's sad that you found it necessary to condemn hatred of one specific group in an article that stereotyped and showed hatred to other groups.

Also...
"Fortunately, what I found out was that gay people don’t seem to really care at all if straight people come hang out at their club."

Sentences like this and others seem to reduce "the gays" to another species, one to be studied and examined, and visited at "their bars," much like a zoo, but not exactly accepted as equal. ...Remember Bill O'Reilly and his "M-F'in Iced Tea!" comments about going to Sylvie's?

"I hung out in Brownsville, and the black people didn't seem to care. Therefore, racism is dead!"
That wouldn't fly, would it? If the tone of this article was supposed to be snarky sarcasm, then be snarky sarcasm... with a point. But your point seems to come off like a "liberal" version of a Stephen Colbert sketch.

Your name
Mon Dec 7 2009 23:55
To everyone: Thank you for commenting, it makes me feel good to know that I am bringing people to the site and encouraging so many responses from our very sexy readers.

S. Brooks King: I think it's great that you're part of the GSA but I think you took my article a bit too personally. The part about the drinks being cheap was meant to be tongue-in-cheek. The focus of the article is just me being happy about feeling welcomed into another culture. And yes, while things like marriage and open military service are still being withheld from the gay community, I was trying to be hopeful and point out that once our generation comes into power these silly little rules will go extinct. You're cool though, I like you. Thanks for reading.

To all the "Your Name" trolls: kudos on posting anonymously, you have certainly established your credibility there. Where exactly did you read a logical fallacy in my article? When I said that my friends and I danced like monkeys in a tiny cage? It wasn't exactly a dissertation or anything. I'm confused. And if you think that the writing was laughable, that's kinda what I was going for.

Fake Mike Greear: I Lol'd.

Chase: You wrote to complain that I... made fun of old people? I'm stunned. Do you own a television? Have you been to a movie? Do you know that making fun of old people has been a tradition since our current crop of elders were young lads? It doesn't mean that I actually dislike old people. Good God, people.

P.S. To everybody: Thanks again for posting. Come back any time.

Michael Forster
Mon Dec 7 2009 16:51
You sir, are a joke. I cannot believe that this piece of drivel made it through the first step of the editing process, yet alone all the way to publishing. The article is riddled with grammatical mistakes, which makes me wonder if anyone even read this before printing or if you just scrawled it on the back of a cocktail napkin in a drunken stupor, declaring it to be your best work yet (I have read your other work, and sadly, this IS your best work yet). Not only is your article a disgrace to the English language, but you offend Christians, the elderly, individuals and families of those who have mental handicaps and most likely all the students who you are representing as an author for the Voyager.

Is this article any reflection of the academic standards held by the University of West Florida? I am about to graduate from Pensacola Junior College and I plan on moving on to a university, and your blatant ignorance has made me question if UWF may be the university for me. Any school (and subsequently administration) which obviously has such a lackadaisical attitude towards quality control on their publications seems like the poorly conceived plot for a Will Farrell movie, not an education institution.

You have written an atrocious piece of media, Mike Greear.

S. Brooks King
Mon Dec 7 2009 16:33
Yes, because victory for the LBGT community is not full equality (like the fact Florida is the only state in the Union that does not allow gays to permanently adopt, or the fact that Amendment Two passed here preventing civil unions from being recognized for benefits and partner rights, or the fact that homosexuals cannot openly be so in the military, and if anyone divulges their preference they are booted from the armed forces) it's cheap drinks and the fact that hip heterosexuals think it's both cool and funny in a post-ironic sense to hang in their clubs. I have seen many of the straight men who go to these clubs. They do not socialize with the commoners for the sake of socializing but instead to seem to validate their liberal credentials, and the worst ones do it only because they find humor in the whole adventure as if going to Emerald City were some sort of trip to an enclosed amusement park, laughing at everything while the group they came with looks on. As part of the S in GSA I find this article insulting in that it manages to trivialize the whole community and their cause down to cheap drinks and the social "acceptance" of hipsters and self absorbed college students. Please, write this one down as another example of how the Voyager is not only an irrelevant publishing, but also an embarrassing part of our UWF experience that only induces a visceral reaction at the idea that this paper will persist once I have come to call myself an alumnus of this institution that I am otherwise proud of.
Mike Greear
Mon Dec 7 2009 16:19
hay guyz i jus want 2 let all yall knew dat i had an awshum tyme at EmRreLd CitYY BOIIIZ! homofobia is totaly lame, guyz.

lots of luv XOXOXO

Chase
Sun Dec 6 2009 20:21
Is this article a freakin joke? I'm never reading the Voyager again as long as this writer is on board. Seriously, my 6 year old nephew can write better than this. Making fun of old people (who you are supposed to respect) is definately unacceptable. Please leave the Voyager Mr. Greear.
Your name
Sun Dec 6 2009 14:50
This article is the worst I've ever seen in a college level publication. There's a reason nobody reads the Voyager. Nearly every paragraph is comprised of a logical fallacy and the writing is just laughable. Did you write while you were drunk? I really wish I could believe this article was intentionally horrible.
Your name
Sun Dec 6 2009 14:50
This article is so poorly written, it's sad. I guess it doesn't matter whether you can write well or not, because at least you're "cool" enough to go to the gay club. This is not a true representation of today's young people.
Your name
Sat Dec 5 2009 21:13
I also agree that homophobia is "lame," but think it's sad that this argument is written at the intellectual level of, I don't know, a middle-schooler.
DAWN HARKINS
Wed Dec 2 2009 03:26
YAAAYYYYYYY






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